Manip: "Untitled Jack & Daniel... In Bed"
Dec. 6th, 2025 04:46 pmArtist:
Character/Pairing: Jack/Daniel
Rating: PG-13
I HAD to art something!
New community: Voice in my ear
Dec. 6th, 2025 08:46 am- podcasts, both fiction and non-fiction
- audiobooks
- podfics
- audio essays - YouTube or other video formats are fine as long as it can be enjoyed without visuals
- apps, platforms or websites to access or discover any of the above.
Just created and I'm keen to post some content soon, but also thrilled if anyone else wants to jump in and share some aural joy.
Please give me excuses to talk about my hyperfixations (again)
Dec. 5th, 2025 08:07 pmCurrently trying to support a friend in a Very Bad Situation and it's desperately anxiety-inducing and my brain is trying to eat itself, which also makes me less useful as support, which is bad.
So if anyone would like to ask or discuss anything about Prophet or Dark Souls or IWTV or climbing or, you know, any of the somewhat cheering topics I sometimes ramble about, PLEASE DO. "More of a comment than a question" questions also very welcome.
I cannot guarantee replies in a timely or consistent manner (because of the Situation and also the bad state of my brain) but it would be deeply appreciated nonetheless.
Except that THANK FUCK my friend is now out of the Very Bad Situation (and please let him remain so, please please please).
My brain is just trying to eat itself because it's prone to doing that and it's been a very very hard year (and I'm having yet another IC flare-up, joy).
Why We’re Paywalling Our Family Christmas Card
Dec. 5th, 2025 10:00 amSeason’s Greetings from the Mortons!
We know many of you look forward to opening your mailbox each December to receive the Morton annual Christmas card and extensive family newsletter. It brings us no good tidings to let you know that we’ve made the difficult decision to paywall it.
As the years have gone by, the letter has grown in scope. When we sent the first Christmas newsletter, we were just a two-person operation in a small home in Middlebury. Now we have to cover nine busy family members across four states. And sometimes Jessica has a boyfriend. It’s a big operation, and Clare had to learn Microsoft XL or whatever it’s called.
Everybody on our list will receive the Morton Christmas Card featuring a candid photo of us down by the lake, wearing matching outfits. And while we love everyone who receives our card, those who subscribe and support our family’s essential end-of-year work will get even more of our love.
Join the Morton Friend Tier for $17.00 to receive:
- Three full pages of updates on the entire Morton clan: Clare (??) and Mark (68); Rachel (39), her husband Greg, their sons Declan (6) & Branson (4); Henry (36), his husband Ian, and their daughter Streisand (1); and Jessica (31)
- A recap of our disastrous trip to the world’s most boring hole (the Grand Canyon)
- An update on the feud with the neighbor we hate, who parks his F-150 on our lawn
- Asides like the day Clare thought she saw Beyoncé at Safeway
- In-depth detail about Mark’s toe fungus
This newsletter isn’t just some free social media post. We start working as early as September. It takes days to write and weeks to edit down from its sixty-page first draft. Each Morton family member plays a valuable role in its production, from fact-checking to updating the printer firmware to making tough editorial decisions, like telling me that I “mention Pete Buttigieg should be president” a “weird amount.”
Support our hours of work and upgrade to the Morton Family Tier for $26.00 to receive:
- The newsletter printed on one of the few remaining pieces of gingerbread border marble printer paper that Clare hoarded when she found it at Staples in 1995
- The grand reveal of who actually writes the newsletter (hint: It’s not really the dog)
- One of Clare’s annual homemade ornaments
- An apology for how last year’s candlestick ornament looked like a big glittery penis
- Access to the Morton Family Games app with crossword puzzles, spelling games, and more
Complimentary subscriptions will be given to families who always send us boxes of Harry & David pears and families who have good-looking sons around Jessica’s age.
From all of us Mortons, we wish you and your family a joyful, peaceful, and blessed holiday season. And don’t expect any freebies on Valentine’s Day either.
Struggle Session: Dildos and Randos
Dec. 5th, 2025 04:16 pmStruggle Session is a bonus column where I respond to comments — just a few — from readers and listeners. I also share a letter that won’t be included in the column and invite my readers to share their advice. Q22 in this month’s Quickies column was from a “vagina-having person” who was wondering whether … Read More »
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Excerpts from The Believer: An Interview with Debbie Harry and Chris Stein
Dec. 5th, 2025 09:03 amA few pieces of creative advice shared by Debbie Harry:
- You can’t please everyone all the time
- You can never make a big enough fool of yourself
- Use the perspective you’ve earned
As my plans to interview Debbie Harry and Chris Stein of Blondie for The Believer first took shape, billboards sprang up, as if on cue, around Manhattan. Sprawled several stories high was Harry’s image, framed in a moody fashion-house ad. A glance up from the sidewalk suddenly felt freighted with the vastness of Blondie’s legend: the art and fashion iconography; the timeless hit songs; and the band’s enduring influence on countless artists, among them No Doubt, Garbage, the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, and Paramore.
Yet the image of Harry amid the New York City landscape also felt grounding and familiar. In tandem with their early punk peers at CBGB on the Bowery, Blondie achieved wide renown with music that documented and theatricalized countercultural urban life. Just under the surface of the band’s tight, shiny pop constructions are vignettes of connection, alienation, and thrills among downtown denizens, variously struggling and striving apart from an indifferent or hostile mainstream.
Harry and Stein founded Blondie in 1974, branching out from the rock-cabaret group the Stilettos, where they first met. The band played small New York clubs with various lineups for years, finally achieving breakthrough success with their chart-topping, critically acclaimed album Parallel Lines in 1978.
Blondie’s balance of accessible pop sounds and social subversion is often clinched by Harry’s singular powers as a front-person and stylist. Whether portraying a sex worker who falls for a cop (“X Offender”), an under-the-radar queer missed connection (“Love at the Pier”), or the dueling voices of stalker and victim (“One Way or Another”), she can sound funny and cynical, ethereal, browbeaten, or unhinged—all while maintaining a fine attunement to everyday speech and slang.
Harry’s crafting of persona was also a distinctive (and still underexamined) contribution to the feminist energies of punk and new wave. In her persistent multivocality—assuming a range of perspectives and identities through performance—Harry turned sharply away from expectations around the emotional transparency of women in rock that had carried over from the ’60s. And although she was conventionally pretty, she was not exactly approachable: A heightened quality to her dress and gender presentation often contrasted with an enigmatic stage presence.
The creative vision of Blondie was further shaped by Harry’s partnership with Stein, with whom she wrote several of the band’s most memorable songs, including “Dreaming,” “Heart of Glass,” and “Rapture.” Stein’s love of film and all manner of pop subcultures became an important influence on the band’s lyricism. His and Harry’s interest in emerging genre innovators also pushed the band to embrace the disco, reggae, and hip-hop sounds that would gain massive popularity in the decades to come. As a talented photographer, Stein helped define Blondie’s stylized look early on, while his images of Harry, the Ramones, Iggy Pop, and many others documented punk’s eccentric visual argot, its serious grit and glamour shot through with an anarchic scrappiness.
A new Blondie studio album—their twelfth—is now slated for release in 2026. I spoke to Harry and Stein over Zoom, trading the sweeping scale of the billboard for small squares on an LCD screen. The discussion that ensued was relaxed, gently cantankerous, and roving.
For more than fifty years, Harry and Stein’s friendship has sustained itself, built on a shared appreciation of art, music, and each other’s points of view. They seem less interested in reviewing their past achievements than in advocating for the things that helped them grow artistically: intellectual curiosity, persistence, and a strong sense of community. As artists who have always been alert to new technologies—from zines to drum machines—they offer a particularly sharp perspective on the potency and pitfalls of digital media.
— Emma Ingrisani
I. “ECCENTRIC AND ENERGIZED
AND CRAZY”
THE BELIEVER: When did you both start thinking of yourselves as songwriters?
CHRIS STEIN: Well, for me it was kind of out of necessity. We did so many cover songs over the years, and it wasn’t something I was averse to, but there was a moment when I knew we needed to get our own material going. When I met Debbie with the Stilettos, they had already been doing original songs.
DEBBIE HARRY: It was the name of the game. We did some club dates where we had to play top-ten hits, recognizable songs, for an audience who were pretty much drunk and there for a simple night out. They weren’t downtown, artsy-fartsy people that were looking for an experience. They just wanted to have a good time and hear music they knew.
We were working slightly in that area, to make some money. But most of our focus and energy were on being part of this underground culture. We both understood it very easily—it was really something that we loved and that we knew. And there was already a great history with the Velvet Underground and other groups.
CS: The New York music scene had been pumping for years and years. I mean, fucking Dylan came outta here, somewhat. The Lovin’ Spoonful when I was a kid—all that was going on here at the time.
DH: The folk scene in the West Village was very influential, a lot of energy there. Though I don’t think either of us was really a big part of it.
CS: I was embedded in it, but I didn’t do any performing.
BLVR: There’s a book you put out in the ’80s called Making Tracks: The Rise of Blondie—it’s a great document of the band’s first few years. At one point Debbie talks about a “non-period of punk”: the moment right before punk in the early ’70s when the New York Dolls stepped in, and that seemed to be a big shot across the bow for this new movement.
CS: Well, I always say that the first two Rolling Stones albums are completely punk…
DH: That was the crossover from glitter and glam rock.
CS: [The Dolls’ impact] was kind of informed by their ragged playing. I don’t say that to demean them—they just weren’t as tight as Bowie’s band. Everybody went to see Bowie’s band [the Spiders from Mars] when he was touring around the same period. But the Dolls were much looser.
DH: And their enthusiasm and higher energy, their stance lyrically, and the way they dressed—it wasn’t about being a finely tuned machine or a big showbiz thing. It was about being exactly what they were: eccentric and energized and crazy, you know?
CS: Equally in there with the musicianship.
BLVR: Earlier today I was looking at a piece by Lorraine O’Grady. She’s known mostly as a performance artist, but she also wrote some rock profiles and reviews. She was very interested in the Dolls, and she talks about this feeling during the same period that rock and roll was stagnating. People felt like it wasn’t continuing to evolve, and the Dolls were seen as disrupting that by being really ambitious, very theatrical, and also imperfect.
CS: Yeah, bands like the Eagles presented this image of a closed group that you had to be really proficient to get into, and none of us were. We were all enamored of the Stooges and the MC5, and all the stuff that was very raw and struggling.
BLVR: As you were starting to write songs and becoming part of the punk scene in the city, so many of the bands had different sounds and styles. They were complementary, but they were distinct. Did people go off by themselves to compose or come up with new things, or was there collaboration across the scene?
CS: Oh, there was a lot of incestuousness. We used to play Television songs. I don’t know if we ever performed a Ramones song at CBGB’s—we might have.
DH: I don’t know if there was any collaboration in the writing end of it.
CS: No.
DH: We all were fans of one another, and so, you know: paying attention. I don’t know if anybody really wanted to be a dead copy. In a way, the thing that made the scene was that it wasn’t a format. There was no format. It wasn’t like there was a lot of schooling or trained musicianship. It was about enterprise and feeling, identity.
I think now we find that chops, so to speak, are seen as very, very important: being able to play anything. But the things we could do, and the ways the groups shaped themselves, were at the limits of the players’ abilities. And I think that’s kind of wonderful. It really creates a sound and an attitude and a zone that you can be in, and it propels itself along.
CS: It’s about dealing with your shortcomings, more than this constant striving for some sort of perfection that you have in your head, whatever that might be.
I know what Debbie means about the chops as far as bands go—you gotta be able to shred very precisely at this point. And it also relates to pop music. I really like a lot of modern pop music—there’s so much that I am really enamored of—but it does all bounce off itself. She used the word format: There are certain formats that everything slips into very easily.
Casting Notice for the Unaired CW Pilot Young Hamlet
Dec. 5th, 2025 08:00 amSYNOPSIS
High school is no picnic for anyone, but especially if you’re one of Shakespeare’s most iconic leading men. Hamlet might be the big man on campus, but that doesn’t mean he’s got it all figured out. This drama puts a much-needed spin on a classic by imagining a world where Hamlet is young and hot.
HAMLET
Sexy football player type, but not just a football player, because we need him to be smart and sensitive too. Lacrosse team, maybe? We’ll come back to this.
Required skills: Smoldering glances, ability to look deep without creating forehead wrinkles.
OPHELIA
Hamlet’s friend, who has an unrequited crush on Hamlet. It needs to be realistic that Hamlet wouldn’t want to date her, but legally, we can only cast hot people at CW, so we’re kind of in a bind. Maybe she’ll wear glasses? Also, obviously, we’re putting her on the swim team because of foreshadowing.
Required Skills: Able to look hot but in a way where every straight male viewer will be convinced he’s the first person to realize she’s hot. Think Linda Cardellini in Scooby Doo. Or Linda Cardellini in everything.
HORATIO
Hamlet’s best friend and the comic relief. He’ll have a crush on Ophelia, but it’s imperative she never gives him the time of day. We’ll give him an off-putting hobby that will be repulsive to women, like reading, to solve this. It will also be implied that Horatio has a thing for Hamlet without ever explicitly saying so (but there will be plenty of textual evidence to support it).
Required Skills: Serviceable cafeteria-style cooking. We are on a budget, so we’re cutting the catering company to add this role.
GHOST OF HAMLET’S DAD
Technically not a ghost, but alive in this series since the show is set in the past, where Hamlet is a hunk, but also in modern times, so that he can go to high school. We should probably change this character’s name to ALIVE GHOST OF HAMLET’S DAD to make it less confusing. Looking to cast an older actor who appears to be on the brink of death, preferably a Timothée Chalamet type in their mid-to-late twenties.
Required Skills: Old.
GERTRUDE
Hamlet’s mom. The International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees has recently released a statement that if Gertrude is not a total MILF, all the grips are walking off set. This is NONNEGOTIABLE.
Required Skills: Juggling (affairs).
CLAUDIUS
Ghost of Hamlet’s Dad’s best friend. Cool approachable guy, the kind that you could really settle into a tryst with. Claudius is obviously already hooking up with Gertrude, which will make the inevitable betrayal of murdering the Ghost of Hamlet’s Dad and stealing his wife that much hotter.
Required Skills: Shoulders that you can cry on and/or bounce a quarter off.
POLONIUS
Occasional third in Gertrude and Claudius’s affair. In the source material, Polonius is hiding behind Gertrude’s curtains when Hamlet confronts her about being with Claudius, so we think it tracks if we make Polonius a total freak who likes to watch. We’ll also later reveal he is a werewolf for the Season 2 omegaverse storyline, so he’ll be really hairy and wear ears sometimes.
Required Skills: [REDACTED].
LAERTES
Ophelia’s brother. He hates Hamlet, but in an enemies-to-lovers kind of way. He’ll frequently confront Hamlet in very closely blocked scenes where the two guys are screaming at each other, but it also looks like they’re about to kiss. And then one day they do. And then they both kiss Horatio. Hamlet is canonically bi now. Public domain material rules!
Required Skills: Ability to make Shakespeare scholars fight in the streets.
After Action Report #7
Dec. 5th, 2025 12:00 pmHear the harrowing tale of the masochist lad who walked into the dungeon and ended up getting flogged…a lot. Did he like it? Would he do it again? Listen and find out. Do you have a tale to tell? Write it up and send it in: Q@Savage.Love Do you have a comment for this show? … Read More »
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Photos: House Yard
Dec. 4th, 2025 11:42 pm( Walk with me ... )
Snowy Sights
Dec. 4th, 2025 05:36 pm
A big flock (larger than we captured here given their frequent movement) of common starlings were circling about this week. It seemed like we might be a food stop on their way to someplace else.
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Dec. 4th, 2025 08:47 pmAnd when I told my therapist all this, she just looked at me and said, “and yet you’re still here.”
Like. That anxious, that many physical symptoms, feeling that sick - and I still showed up. I still came to the appointment. Even though I hate being on video. Even though every fibre of my body was screaming nope-nope-nope.
She was genuinely proud of me. She said so many people don’t make it to therapy at all because the anxiety walls them off before they get there. And I just… cried. Because I was sitting there saying how much I hated all of this, how miserable and scary it feels, but also that I knew I could get past it again. I’ve done it before. I can do it again. Even when it feels impossible.
We talked a lot about how many “micro-tasks” actually make up a single win - and how fast the brain erases them. Like we say, “yeah, I went to work today,” but we don’t acknowledge the twenty-seven terrifying steps inside that.
Like:
- waking up, feeling dread punch you in the stomach
- choosing not to call in sick
- untangling yourself from blankets that suddenly feel like the only safe place on earth
- dragging yourself upright, grounding through dizziness
- dealing with the whole stomach situation
- brushing teeth with shaky hands
- picking clothes (harder than astrophysics)
- eating something, taking meds, checking the time
- finding your keys/phone/badge like you’re completing a quest
- putting on shoes (its own battle)
- opening the front door even though anxiety wants you barricaded inside
- locking up and then immediately worrying you didn’t lock up
- getting to the car
- sitting there thinking “I could just… not go”
- starting the engine anyway
- navigating traffic, roundabouts, other drivers, all while barely holding it together
- parking, getting out, walking into the building
- pretending to be a functional human despite your brain being a screeching smoke alarm
And then you do your job. And you come home. And your brain still goes: “yeah, regular day.”
When really you climbed a mountain before 9am.
So we talked through treatment options. Weighed up a wellbeing course vs one-to-one exposure therapy. In the end, we decided to start with a remote 6-week wellbeing course - 2 hours a week, each session covering a theme (anxiety, low mood, sleep, self-esteem, self-identity). She said - and I agree - that while anxiety & agoraphobia are the headline problem right now, I’m actually struggling with all of the things the course touches on. So hopefully it’ll lift the baseline a bit before we dive into exposure therapy.
(Also, neither of us particularly wanted to start exposure therapy during Christmas. Sensible boundaries.)
The only downside: the course doesn’t start until the end of January :/
So… now we wait. And I try to remember that even when my stomach is imploding and my brain is screaming and I feel like a raw nerve with legs — I’m still doing the thing. I’m still showing up. I’m still here.
The New Yorker’s Isaac Chotiner Interviews Santa Claus
Dec. 4th, 2025 10:00 amFor several centuries, Santa Claus has been one of the most prolific mythical gift-givers in the world. Formerly known as Saint Nicholas of Myra, a man whose works included reviving the bodies of three children slain by a serial murderer, Santa Claus reinvented himself in the mid-1800s as a jolly Norwegian-style figure of merriment, whose generosity was based on the recipient’s moral acuity.
I recently spoke with Santa Claus, who is currently coordinating his staff of immortal blue-collar elves, about the morality of children and his friendship with a creature whom many carolers consider a war criminal: Krampus.
You have chosen to spend every Christmas Eve flying around the globe giving gifts to all of the, and I’m quoting here, “good girls and boys.” Why did you decide that only good children deserve gifts?
I wouldn’t say that I made the decision. I’d say that I’m following the traditions set forth by Christianity and other religions in which acts of good are rewarded, while acts of bad are punished. Christmas is a fun way to teach children that being good and kind can lead to positive results, even if being mean or a bully feels better in the moment.
And so-called bad children deserve nothing.
That’s not what I’m saying, Isaac. I’m saying that the better a child behaves, the better the gift they get. There are degrees of bad. A child who won’t play with his little sister might not deserve a Nintendo Switch 2, but, like, a baseball glove? Sure. I can do that.
So if a very wealthy child gets everything they requested and a poor child does not, are you positing that the wealthy child is morally superior to the one who lives in poverty?
No! What I’m saying is that overall—and I just mean overall—whether a child is naughty or nice does have an impact on what they receive. You know, in general.
But you do make the list yourself, and you are the one who checks it twice.
Yes, of course. It’s in the song.
So you are, in fact, the one who decides which children deserve nice things and which don’t.
That’s unfair. I’m saying that, through the magic of Christmas, I can understand the heart of each child and through that special bond—
Can you see into the heart of every child?
Yes.
I have to stop you there for a second because you just said something interesting. If you can see into every child’s heart throughout the year, don’t you feel that you have a moral obligation to help them when they’re in crisis rather than waiting for December to give them a Hatchimal?
Look, you have to understand that the magic of Christmas is limited.
Limited to flying to approximately 2.6 billion Christmas homes in one night and changing your body’s shape to slide down chimneys?
I didn’t say it’s not powerful magic, Isaac. I said it’s limited magic.
I’m just trying to understand how you can run a magic workshop all year long, raise magic reindeer all year long, watch children’s deeds all year long, but your ability to act is limited to a few hours.
Yes. Whether you want to believe that’s true or not, it’s true.
What I also struggle to believe is that you are the self-described arbiter of naughty and nice, but you are close to Krampus.
I don’t know if I’d say we’re close.
There are Christmas cards with you both on the front.
Yes, we both work on the same holiday. We’re both tasked with making Christmas truly magical.
By snatching the children from their beds and taking them to hell?
You’re giving an example of the most extreme situation and making it sound like the norm.
But that does happen on occasion, you agree?
Yes.
And those children are getting dragged to hell by Krampus on the one night that you said you could do something. But you don’t. Why?
Because Krampus has his role and I’ve got mine! I think it’s weird that the Tooth Fairy takes teeth, but that’s not my job either.
So your job is to judge people, but not to judge people for judging people.
You’re making it sound like I approve of Krampus’s methods. I don’t. Just because you share a holiday with someone doesn’t mean you agree with them on everything. I love kids.
Santa Claus, thank you so much for doing this.
Great, thanks. If we go light on the Krampus part, I wouldn’t complain, because it could dwarf everything else.
An Open Letter to the Soft Millennial Man Now Facing Extinction
Dec. 4th, 2025 08:00 amDear Soft Millennial Man,
You’ve been quiet lately, but we know you’re still out there. You’re probably hiding out at Whole Foods until this whole “Is America a dictatorship?” question gets settled. Smart move. Hopefully, this letter reaches you before you stumble through a trapdoor on the internet and the manosphere eats your brain. There are a few things we, heterosexual millennial women, want you to know before it’s too late.
For starters, we apologize for complaining about the mustache you grew for Movember, and for using the term “dad bod” to describe how you look in your swimsuit. We also regret our lackluster support for your hobbies. In hindsight, pickling vegetables and making sourdough starter are two of the more benign things a guy can do with his time. Our bad, Millennial Man.
We understand that the times are a-changin’, but we hope you’ll more or less stay the same. We’re not saying that you’re perfect, but your flaws—like the second Bush administration—are starting to look quaint from our current vantage point in the MAGAverse circle of hell. Contrary to what you may be hearing on TikTok, you don’t need to learn mixed martial arts or eat more protein. And unless you’re Michael B. Jordan, we don’t care about your muscles. If you don’t believe us, just look at Timothée Chalamet; men with spaghetti arms can be sex symbols too. You just need confidence, great hair, and generational talent.
Speaking of muscle: We know that your hunter-gatherer brain wants to protect us, but it’s 2025, and no neighboring tribes are looking to ransack the village and drag us off as concubines. If you’re feeling the urge to show off your man-strength, there’s probably a jar in the fridge you can open for us, or a spider in the basement you could kill. We also still welcome your help with the Roku and are willing to set aside our opposition to traditional gender roles when it comes to taking out the trash.
If you’re still feeling the need to impress us, please don’t challenge another man to a cage fight on X. What really turns us on is a guy who isn’t afraid of feelings. Make supportive eye contact with us while we cry, and you’ll steal our hearts forever. If that sounds like more than you can handle, there’s no need to worry. As long as you can hold a job for six months and watch a child for up to two hours, most of us already consider you marriage material.
We know podcasts are all the rage these days, and that you might be feeling tempted to check out one of those shows where the host interviews vaccine skeptics and Nazi sympathizers. Might we suggest instead a marathon of all those Marvel movies we once refused to watch with you? Stay away from Joe Rogan forever, and we’ll give you a lifetime of Monday Night Football plus one free Saturday of uninterrupted playing video games in your underwear.
All we ask, soft Millennial Man, is that you keep being you. Keep going to brunch and watering your plants. Keep standing in line for cronuts, listening to Mumford & Sons, and watching YouTube videos of men unboxing sneakers. We know we complained about these things in the past, but we’ve come to realize that you, the man who brews beer in our closet, are the most evolved of your species. So, why not pretend it’s still 2017? We can grab an eleven-dollar slice of avocado toast at the coffee shop, and spend eternity browsing the West Elm website looking at midcentury furniture for the home we’ll never be able to buy.
It might not be the life either of us dreamed of, but things could be worse. They already are.
Yours Truly,
A Blue-State Millennial Woman
random Geography poll
Dec. 4th, 2025 03:08 amso, to celebrate i'm doing a random poll.
i've heard that people in the southern united states think of washington d.c as a northern city, and people in the northern united states see it as a southern city.
what say you?
northern or southern?
where are you located?
in the north
2 (40.0%)
in the south
1 (20.0%)
in the midwest
1 (20.0%)
in the west
1 (20.0%)
outside of the united states
0 (0.0%)

